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Intel under pressure: Esports pros complain about neglightly lower performance compared to AMD X3D CPUs

A dispute has broken out in the esports scene about the right choice of processor. While most professional players now rely on AMD’s Ryzen 7-9800X3D in their private lives, Intel hardware is used almost exclusively in major tournaments, as the company is the main sponsor. As a result, many professionals are forced to play with CPUs that they perceive as less powerful and more prone to crashes. Criticism of Intel systems has increased in recent days and has led to a public debate about fairness and stability in major competitions.

The ball was set rolling by Counter-Strike 2 pro ropz, who stated in a post that the game “only runs properly on a 9800X3D”. Other players confirmed similar experiences in the comments. In some cases, there is talk of a difference of over 100 frames per second when comparing an Intel system with AMD’s X3D processors. This may not seem relevant for casual gamers or hobby gamers, as they are usually slowed down by the graphics card. However, in professional esports, where resolution and details are deliberately reduced in order to achieve frame rates in the high three-digit range, such a difference can be decisive for the game.

In addition, there are stability problems that have been documented at several tournaments. At the FNCS Globals event, players reported system crashes on computers with Intel Core i7-13700K, even though they were not overclocked. At the Esports World Cup, streaming consultant JJLiebig reported that three out of five Core i9-14900K systems used for observer purposes regularly crashed at four-hour intervals. The cause was apparently a degradation of the chips that had already occurred and could no longer be remedied by software or microcode updates.

The background to this is not new: Intel’s 13th and 14th core generation already attracted attention last year due to problems with the power supply. Under certain circumstances, this could not only lead to instability, but even to permanent damage to the processors. Although Intel has since rectified most of the faults via a microcode update, anyone already using a weakened chip has no choice but to send it in for repair or replacement. However, this is not an option for tournament organizers, as the systems have to be provided and put into operation in a standardized manner.

For Intel, the situation is increasingly becoming an image problem. The company sponsors numerous international tournaments in order to make its own brand visible and to emphasize the relevance of its own CPUs in the gaming sector. However, when gamers complain about poorer performance and crashes at the same time, this marketing effect is reversed. For AMD, on the other hand, the discussion is a welcome signal. Thanks to their 3D V-Cache, the X3D models are currently considered the best choice for gaming and are regularly at the top of the rankings.

Conclusion

The current conflict clearly shows the gap between sponsorship interests and the real needs of professional gamers. While Intel is trying to strengthen its own market position by being present at tournaments, many professionals are convinced that AMD’s X3D CPUs are currently the much better choice for competitive gaming. For the majority of normal gamers, the discussion is less relevant, as they are usually GPU-limited. However, AMD currently has a clear advantage in the professional sector, where stability and the highest frame rates make the difference between winning and losing. Whether Intel can regain lost trust with future generations such as Nova Lake remains to be seen. What is certain, however, is that many esports professionals see AMD far ahead in the current generation.

Source: pcgamer.com

 

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Das klingt einfach absurd. Was heißt denn "richtig ordentlich"? Computerbase hat da eine Liste an Benchmarks eingesammelt. Da gibt es recht interessante Beobachtungen zu machen. Leider keine "Turniersettings", außer man spielt auf 720p.
Kann man in den Benchmarks bestätigen. Alles mit 4090 kann durch die CPU noch mal ordentlich beeinflusst werden. X3D Prozessoren sind überwiegend krass. Aber was erwartet man auch, wenn man Speicherlatenz mit einem riesigen Cache minimiert? Gerade bei 300+ FPS bleiben pro Frame nur noch 3,3 ms pro Frame in dem alles berechnet werden muss. Bei 64 Updates pro Sekunde... naja... da rendert man halt 5x quasi denselben Frame.

Man hat es vielleicht schon rausgelesen, aber irgendwann ist das auch nur noch Placebo. So beeindruckend diese Menschen mit ihrer Reaktionszeit auch seien mögen. Was stehen da eigentlich für Monitore? Wir hatten hier doch erst kürzlich einen Artikel mit einem 1000 Hz Monitor. Der Monitor entscheidet ja auch noch mal, ob ein gerenderter Frame überhaupt jemals in welcher Qualität angezeigt wird. 540 Hz ist die Spitze bei Geizhals.

Also ja: Intel hat die letzten Jahre über durchaus keine schönen Ergebnisse erzielt. Rohe Gewalt in Form von Energie, um wenigstens die Single Core Spitze noch halten zu können und dann auch noch Stabilitätsprobleme. Ersteres juckt die Pro Gamer wohl reichlich wenig aber instabile Prozessoren sind dann doch schon ein Ding. Sicherlich treibt Intel seine Prozessoren an sensible Grenzen. Von daher gehe ich bei dem Punkt bei den Pro Gamern mit: Ja, AMD ist derzeit besser. Wegen des großen Caches und weil sie scheinbar ihre Prozessoren in einer stabilen Lage haben. Aber dieses Geschwafel von Leistung durch absurde hohe Refresh Raten klingt doch eher nach einer Ausrede für den menschlichen Faktor - sei es nun, dass jemand anderes einfach besser ist oder der Stoffwechsel nicht so mit macht, weil man altert oder zu wenig geschlafen hat.

btw. Spitzen Bild: Ryzen A und Imtt9J Core I9D00K. Großartig! Der Heatspreader beim Intel sitzt auch noch etwas seltsam auf dem PC. Und die dicken Kabel für die Maus und Tastatur! Grandios!

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