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AMD Radeon AI R9700 aka RX 9070XT in the big workstation graphics card test – What are the benefits of double the memory when working?

Temperatures

The temperature development of the Radeon AI R9700 shows very clearly that the thermal design was not fully utilized in several places, especially in the area of memory cooling. The recorded heating curve illustrates a rapid rise in temperatures immediately after the start of the load phase, followed by a comparatively early achievement of thermal equilibrium. This behaviour is generally typical for GPUs in this performance class, but the distribution of the individual temperature zones reveals a clear need for optimization.

While the GPU edge temperature of around 65 °C remains at an uncritical and perfectly acceptable level for air-cooled cards, the hotspot temperature of around 84 to 85 °C already shows a noticeably higher internal load distribution. However, a look at the memory becomes critical, as its temperature reaches the 90 °C mark several times. Although this level is still functionally within the specifications for GDDR6, it is clearly too high for a product that is marketed as a professional solution and should therefore meet higher demands in terms of thermal stability and component service life.

Particularly striking in this context is the almost complete lack of thermal coupling between the backplate and the memory modules. The thermography shows a broadly increased temperature on the rear side, which, however, remains significantly below the level of the actual memory. The measured temperature of around 69 °C on the backplate appears moderate at first glance, but at the same time it documents only very weak dissipation of the storage waste heat via this area. The temperature gradient between the storage tank and the backplate is clearly too large to assume functional heat dissipation through the rear.

This points directly to a fundamental problem in the layer structure of the cooling package. As I have already explained in my article comparing putty and thermal pads, the backplate is only able to make a significant contribution to memory or VRM cooling if it has defined contact points, a suitable interface material and a sufficiently rigid construction. A (different) thermal pad would have enabled a more stable and significantly more efficient heat transfer if it had been correctly designed and had a clearly defined pressure window. However, the present design lacks precisely this targeted thermal connection. The backplate acts more as a purely mechanical element and at best as a large-area heat spreader with no direct function for the critical components. The memory therefore has to dissipate the majority of its heat loss exclusively via the PCB and the front, which places unnecessary strain on the cooler and impairs the uniformity of the thermal profile.

For a card of this class, it would therefore not only be desirable but essential to integrate the backplate more actively into the heat flow. This would not only have reduced the storage temperatures, but also slowed down the thermal ageing of the components and improved the overall stability under continuous load. This is particularly true in a professional environment, where high continuous loads are common and thermal reserves are a decisive factor for long-term reliability. The measured 90 °C shows that potential has been wasted here. A revised design, for example with defined contact surfaces, improved interface materials or a modular backplate segmentation with high mechanical preload, would have achieved noticeable improvements. In its current form, the backplate of the Radeon AI R9700 is a purely decorative element with very limited functional relevance for memory thermal management. I would also like to refer you to my basic article here:

Thermal putty or thermal pad, which is better? Myths about thermally conductive materials, thermal conductivity and temperatures

Clock rates

The recorded clock curve of the Radeon AI R9700 under continuous full compute load shows a very consistent, but thermally explainable behavior that allows clear conclusions to be drawn about the internal regulation. Immediately after the load is applied, the GPU clock initially increases very quickly and reaches its maximum boost window within a few seconds. This initial peak is briefly above the later stable frequency, which suggests a temperature-based boost logic that utilizes its maximum reserves as long as the silicon temperature allows. However, as the hotspot temperature rises in parallel, the clock rate falls back to a sustained plateau relatively quickly. After about a minute, the hotspot temperature approaches the 80-degree mark, which apparently serves as a soft or fixed limit for the card. During the same period, the clock then stabilizes at around 2850 to 2900 MHz. This frequency remains almost constant until the end of the test, with only minimal fluctuations that can be clearly attributed to the thermal micro-fluctuations of the hotspot.

This means that the card is not limited in its continuous operation by the power consumption or the power supply, but primarily by the temperature. It is particularly noticeable that the hotspot remains just below the 90 °C mark during the entire test period, while the GPU edge sensor displays significantly lower values. This difference illustrates that very high temperature ranges form locally in the silicon, which is typical for GPUs with a high packing density. However, the behavior also shows that the cooling reaches its performance limits in these critical areas. Since the maximum possible boost frequency is obviously higher than the range permanently maintained in the test, it can be seen that the thermal control mechanism is permanently active and deliberately lowers the clock in order to control the hotspot temperature. This slight but continuous limitation explains why the clock cannot stay in the 3000 MHz range, but remains around 150 to 200 MHz below it.

This gives a clear picture: the Radeon AI R9700 achieves a stable but thermally throttled operating frequency under full load. The hotspot temperatures are so high that they have a direct influence on the applied clock rate and limit the boost mechanism. More efficient heat dissipation, particularly in the hotspot and memory areas, would extend the boost margin, increase the clock rate and also reduce the thermal load on the GPU in the long term.

Fan speeds and control

The analysis of the fan speeds of the Radeon AI R9700 under full load shows very clearly how much the cooling is required in this scenario and what consequences this has for the noise development. Even in the first few seconds of the load increase, the fan control reacts with a rapid speed increase, which is intended to absorb the initial temperature peak. The course of the curve shows that the control is designed aggressively and that there is hardly any downward leeway as soon as the hotspot temperature rises towards the known thermal threshold.

After around two minutes, the fan speed has reached an almost constant operating level and settles at around 3200 to 3400 revolutions per minute. This level is maintained over the entire duration of the test, whereby small fluctuations repeatedly reflect the dynamic reactions of the card to microthermal changes. The hotspot temperature is constantly just below 85 degrees during this phase, which shows that the fan speed was deliberately set to an upper limit in order to ensure thermal stability.

A speed above 3000 revolutions per minute means a very clearly perceptible operating noise in practice. The sound pressure of a typical axial fan does not increase linearly, but disproportionately with the speed. At just under 3400 rpm, you can expect an acoustic impression that is far above the usual everyday gaming noise and is more reminiscent of a workstation that is permanently running at high capacity. It must therefore be assumed that the operating noise will be loud and disturbing in quiet rooms, especially if the card is operated in compute or rendering workloads for a longer period of time.

The fan curve ultimately reveals two points: Firstly, it confirms that the card’s cooling solution has no significant thermal reserves under high continuous load and therefore has to regulate aggressively. Secondly, it indicates that this high speed is not only necessary in the short term, but permanently in order to keep the critical areas of the GPU in the safe range. For practical operation, this means that users must expect a very high noise level that cannot be reduced without interventions such as a manual fan curve or the use of an alternative cooling concept.

Frequency spectrum and measured noise level

The frequency spectrum recorded with Smaart shows an overall strongly increased level over the entire audible band, which already indicates a high broadband flow and motor noise of the fans. The measured SPL of 57.9 dB(A) under load confirms the visual perception of an acoustically dominant noise level, which in this form is clearly too high for a professional workstation card.
It is noticeable, however, that the usual uniform noise curve is interrupted by several narrow-band level increases. These peaks are typical of electrically induced oscillations of coils and inductances, i.e. classic coil beeping. The spectral distribution shows striking vertical structures in the range between approx. 700 and 1000 Hz as well as further energy increases in the upper mid-range between 1.5 and 2 kHz.

These frequency groups correspond to a very typical pattern of heavily loaded DC-DC converters that lock into fixed switching frequencies in compute mode. The repetition of these harmonic lines in the spectrogram confirms that these are not fan resonances, but clearly electrically induced coil whine, which clearly stands out both tonally and energetically.

Analysis of the audio recordings of the whine

During the warm-up phase, the electrical load on the voltage converters increases in proportion to the power consumption of the GPU. It is precisely during this phase that the load profiles change from short-term boost behavior to a stable constant load range. It is precisely during this transition that the strongest changes in the acoustic spectrum occur. The rising temperatures lead to a slight shift in the switching frequencies, which explains the observed frequency jumps between around 690 and 930 Hz in the first recording. As the GPU gradually reaches thermal saturation at over 80 °C, the frequencies condense into clearly defined tones as the VRM switching frequencies fall into stable grids.

Although the fans ramp up considerably shortly afterwards and the broadband airborne noise increases significantly, the coil whine remains prominently visible in the spectra. Even at levels above 3000 rpm, at which a masking effect would normally occur, the whistling remains tonal. This implies that the sound pressure of the electrical vibrations is disproportionately high in relation to the fan volume – a rather unfavorable noise profile. This is a significant disadvantage, especially in the professional sector, where the Radeon AI R9700 is actually intended to be used, as workstations are often operated in quiet development environments or near sound studios. The coil whine is therefore not only technically relevant, but also ergonomically problematic.

The Heating Up Sequence recording shows that the whine is already audible during thermal heating. The spectral peaks around 700, 810 and 920 Hz already occur before the fans turn up significantly. The beeping is clearly recognizable in this phase and has a stable frequency structure, which is typical for load currents that still increase moderately and evenly.

The subsequent numerical analysis of the audio recordings confirms this visual observation. The FFT analysis of the Heating Up Sequence file shows repeated coordinate clusters of pronounced peaks at:

  • ~690-700 Hz

  • ~810 Hz

  • ~920-930 Hz

This corresponds exactly to the harmonic patterns that occur in GPUs when load changes in the VRM or in the memory voltage converters excite certain natural frequencies of their inductances.

In the Coil Whine 01 and 02 files, the whine increases in both amplitude and complexity of the harmonics. The fundamentally dominant frequency around 1005 Hz is very present and produces a penetrating, high-frequency whistle that remains clearly perceptible even when masked to a certain extent by airborne sound. The subharmonics around 502 Hz also produce a pulsating whistling pattern that can be subjectively perceived as “trembling” or “fluttering”. The higher harmonics around 1509 Hz lead to an unpleasantly sharp characteristic, which is particularly annoying in office environments, as they are in the range of maximum human hearing sensitivity.

In the Coil Whine 02 file, the peaks are even more pronounced. Particularly high amplitudes occur at:

  • ~1004-1007 Hz (dominant fundamental)

  • ~502-503 Hz (first subharmonic)

  • ~1509 Hz (second harmonic)

The energetic dominance of these tone complexes leaves no doubt that the coil whine – not the fans – is the critical noise source of the Radeon AI R9700.

Power consumption

The power consumption of the Radeon AI R9700 reveals a clearly structured, yet demanding load behavior in the practical test, which clearly distinguishes it from classic gaming graphics cards. Measurements were taken directly on the graphics card so that the GPU chip as well as the memory, voltage converter and fan control were reliably recorded. Even in idle mode, the card behaves inconspicuously, as the consumption is usually in the range of around 30 to fifty watts, which is absolutely typical for a workstation GPU in this performance class when the fan is running. Under light load, the power consumption increases moderately and reaches around 100 watts, for example with simple 2D applications or minor GPU acceleration.

However, as soon as full 3D visualization kicks in, the picture changes significantly. In this discipline, the R9700 requires a constant 240 to 300 watts and is therefore in a range that is not unusual for high-end hardware, but clearly shows that the chip reaches areas of high utilization relatively early on. This applies in particular to ray tracing workloads, in which both shader and memory paths are fully utilized. Here, the consumption in the test setup regularly rose to values between 330 and 360 watts. Only in pure compute and AI load scenarios, in which the card works practically continuously at the limit, did the maximum power consumption of around 400 watts become apparent, which is far above the specifications and pushes the card to its thermal limit (see above).

Workload / state Power consumption
Idle / Desktop 30-50 W
2D-CAD approx. 80-100 W
3D visualization 240-300 W
Ray tracing load (igoBOT), simulations 330-360 W
Compute / AI full load approx. 390-400 W

These consumption values clearly place the Radeon AI R9700 in the upper class of professional workstation GPUs, whose efficiency behavior depends heavily on the respective application. It is noticeable that AMD allows very generous power distribution in the compute area, which on the one hand explains the high computing power, but on the other hand also significantly increases the thermal requirements. For systems that are to work under full load for long periods of time, a high-quality power supply unit is just as essential as sufficient case ventilation.

Perf-per-watt comparison between Radeon AI R9700 and Radeon RX 9070XT

If we compare the measured consumption values with the previously determined performance in rendering, CAD and AI workloads, a differentiated efficiency picture emerges. The Radeon RX 9070XT works somewhat more economically in many tasks, but does not quite reach the throughput values of the AI R9700 in compute-intensive areas. The AI-optimized variant often achieves a small but reproducible advantage per watt of computing power, as it converts its higher consumption reserves better into actual output. The RX 9070XT is more efficient in classic graphics workloads, while the R9700 clearly shows its strengths in AI, simulation and complex shader pipelines. Overall, the efficiency of the two models is close to each other, but is decisively shifted by the type of application.

 

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eastcoast_pete

Urgestein

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Danke, interessanter und ausführlicher Test!
Das mit der eher dekorativen Backplate bei ziemlich hohen VRAM Temperaturen ist allerdings unschön, und, auch Deiner Analyse nach, wahrscheinlich unnötig. Ist ASRock hier der Ausreißer, und machen das andere Boardpartner besser? Schon etwas schräg, daß ASRock hier nicht die paar Euro oder Dollar für okay brauchbares Putty und einer verrippten Aluminium Backplate zwischen den Sofakissen finden konnte.

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Thomas2605

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Danke an den ausführlichen Test... finde die Karte schon seit der Ankündigung sapnnend da sie für die Leistung im Marktumfeld ja fast "günstig" ist!
Nur schade das sie recht Laut ausgefallen ist!
Meines Wissens gibt es, für die AI Modelle, aber keine zertifizierten Workstation Treiber oder?
Mich wundern auch die guten Werte in Solidworks...vor allem in RealView.
Seit wann kann man das ohne Zertifizierte Treiber überhaupt aktivieren?
Früher mussten wir noch Quadro Mods durchführen damit SW überhaupt einigermaßen lief...:unsure:

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RazielNoir

Urgestein

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Eine 9070XT im Workstation-Gewand.
Bei mehr Speicher und geringfügig mehr Boost-Takt als eine reguläre 9070XT war ja eigentlich zu erwarten, das der Strombedarf mehr als die 300W aus der Werksangabe sein wird. Aber Lautstärke und Wärmeentwicklung ist dann doch eher mau...
Die Frage ist eben wie immer: Welche Software setze ich ein und braucht die die Zertifizierten Treiber?

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Igor Wallossek

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Doch, ich hab den blauen Treiber genommen, nicht Adrenaline.

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Alkbert

Urgestein

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[...] Die Karte durfte ausschließlich im unversehrten Zustand getestet werden, was sowohl eine vollständige Demontage als auch weiterführende Analysen der verbauten Komponenten, der Materialien und der Leiterplattenstruktur ausschließt. [...]

Finde ich aber auch völlig legitim. Ich würde der Konkurrenz auch nicht alle Details VOR der offiziellen Markteinführung auf Igor´s Silbertablett serviert haben wollen.

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Thomas2605

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Oh Interessant... der ist zwar auf der AMD Seite nicht mit der Karte verlinkt aber die AI PRO ist zumindest als Kompatibel gelistet.
Die 9070XT hatte dann aber den Adrenalin oder? Trotzdem sehr verwunderlich das Sie da mit dem Adrenaline so nah dran ist...
Waren Früher echt welten dazwischen!

View image at the forums

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Igor Wallossek

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Die gibts doch schon offiziell, auch in Shops, zu kaufen.

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Joseph Mutzenbacher

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Schon lustig eigentlich, was heutzutage noch alles als Karte durchgeht.. :p

Bis vor einem halben Jahr habe ich noch mit einer passiven hd5450 gewerkelt, vermutlich habe ich etwas an Entwicklung versäumt, lol. Langsam könnten die Grafikkarten-Hersteller aber umdenken und ein noch größeres Gehäuse verwenden, dann könnte man den Rest da reinbasteln.

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Thomas2605

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Wobei die hier gezeigt Karte ja eher noch "kompakt" ist...

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Pokerclock

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Die Grafikkarte kann seit Wochen frei bestellt werden. U.a. auch für SI wie Krotus Computer. Woher die Karte stammt und was die danach machen, sei mal dahingestellt. Würde ich böse sein wollen, so müsste ich sagen, dass die Karte in einer Workstation landet und verkauft wird. Ob als Neuware oder nicht, wird wohl kaum einer hinterfragen in der Erwartung Ersteres zu erhalten. In den kommenden Monaten ist ein 1000er mehr oder weniger sehr essenziell für die kleineren PC-Schrauberbuden.

Ganz ehrlich, entweder man stellt Dinge vollumfänglich zur Verfügung oder lässt es eben sein. Wenn man seine Firma nicht genannt haben möchte, dann heißt es halt "aus der Community". Aber dann hat man halt nicht einmal den geringsten Werbeeffekt zum Mitnehmen. Tja, blöd was?

Ich sehe schon, dass ich beim nächsten Mal wieder einspringe, dann bekommt man als Tester wenigstens keine einschränkenden Bedingungen diktiert und die Leser nur das Halbe vom Ganzen dank SI-Geiz.

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Igor Wallossek

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Ich versuche, eine von Sapphire zu bekommen. Die hat garantiert eine leisere Kühlung und läuft auch nicht ins thermische Limit. Und Sapphire lässt mich auch alles zerlegen. Das hat bisher noch keiner verboten.

Aber für alle AMD'ler: Mitwoch ist dann der Big-Bang-Nachmittag ;)

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eastcoast_pete

Urgestein

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Auch weil die Intel Pro GPUs einigermaßen gute Leistungen hingelegt haben (wer hätte das noch vor einem Jahr gedacht?), fand ich die heutige Meldung, daß die B31 A.K.A. "große Battlemage" jetzt doch erscheinen soll interessant. Spekulatius meinerseits: die B31 wird, wenn überhaupt, v.a. als professionelle GPU gelauncht. Einfacher Grund: man kann für "Pro" GPUs höhere Preise verlangen. Außerdem würde sich so auch die Arbeit lohnen, die Intels Grafik Abteilung in die Treiber für Anwendungen gesteckt hat.
Wär doch interessant, wenn AMD und Intel im Mittelklasse "Pro" Segment Nvidia vom Sockel schubsen würden 😄.

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Igor Wallossek

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Mit FSR4 hat AMD mittlerweile mehr als nur ein heißes Eisen im Feuer. Das wird noch spannend, wenn NV sich noch weiter ausruht. Teaser... ;)

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eastcoast_pete

Urgestein

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Ein guter Tritt in den Grafik-Hintern macht müde Jensens munter😁!
Im Ernst, gerade Häuptling Noch 'ne Neue Lederjacke ist ja sehr bekannt dafür, daß er es überhaupt nicht mag, wenn Nvidia irgendwo Marktanteile und Vergleichstests verliert.

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Mudsee

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Nun sich ausruhen, denken man ist unaufholsam weit vorne usw. das ist bei so vielen Firmen/ Organisationen usw. die Hybris
Siehe Unterhaltungsmedien ala Grundig usw., Autos wie VW, Tesla, CPU siehe Intel.

Und darum ist es ja auch so wichtig das es Konkurrenz/ Alternativen gibt, denn damit schreitet die Innovation voran. Und Ja das mit Intel ein dritter dabei ist, finde ich gut und auch wie Schritt für Schritt sie an dem Platzhirsch herankommen bzw. schon eingeholt haben.

Und Danke für den Test, und ja das nicht aufmachen und so schon zu merkenden "Wärmeprobleme" gibt mir so das Gefühl von Geschmäckle, als ob sie von der "Macke " was wüssten.
Und der Test zeigt aber auch wunderbar das man eigentlich 3 Karten bräuchte, wenn man diese Bandbreite an Programmen verwendet. Denn es zeigt sich ja echt gut welche Karte wo welche Stärken hat und man sich wenn benötigt vorher auch Gedanken darüber machen sollte. Und so was ist gerade im Produktiven Bereich nicht unerheblich.

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Igor Wallossek

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Wenn ich Solidworks im normalen Umfeld nutzen müsste, würde ich mir definitiv eine AMD-Karte in den PC stecken. Die B60 ist gnadenlos unterschätzt, aber da muss intel noch mal an die Treiber und Zertifizierungen ran. Ansonsten sind die Teile durchaus Alternativen.

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Metallsonic

Veteran

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Hi lieber Igor,

welchen Treiber meinst du du genau?
Ich habe mir diese Karte von Gigabyte gekauft.
Ich habe es satt Speichermangel zu haben.
Und nutze diese Karte dann zum spielen.
Auch wenn die Bandbreite eher Durchschnittlich ist.

Man muss 32 GB VRAM erst einmal voll bekommen.
3500 € für eine RTX 5090 sah ich als wahnsinig und verrückt an.
Zudem glaube ich das die Preise der Ai 9700 Pro noch steigen werden.

Ich hätte gerne Fotos von der PCB gesehen.

Ist es technisch möglich auf meiner 9700 ai pro von Gigabyte das Bios einer Gigabyte RX 9070 XT drauf zu flashen?🤔

Immerhin ist der Chip beider Karten identisch.

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Metallsonic

Veteran

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🥵
Wegen der Thermik, werde ich mir dann Kupfer Ramkühler besorgen, Dicke 2,5 mm.
So das alle Rams damit bestückt sind.
Entweder ein sehr großes Wärmeleitpad was in etwa so gross wie die gesamte Backplplate ist, oder ich stopfe richtig viel Thermamalpudding hinein habe genug davon da.

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RazielNoir

Urgestein

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Frage an die Profis:

Wenn ich in einem WS-System 2 oder mehrere Grafikkarten mit jeweils 2 angeschlossenem Monitor betreibe, benötige ich dann zwingend sowas wie Nvidia Sync (II) für die Syncronisierte-Darstellung der Monitore als 1 Großen über Mosaic? Gibt's was vergleichbares bei AMD oder funktioniert das Sync out of the Box?

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